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By John Jappy 
As a civil servant in London, and being part of the establishment, I always accepted the general view that an independent Scotland would not be able to survive on its own without financial help from the London Exchequer.
However, when in 1968 I was able to examine the so-called "books" for the first time, I was shocked to find that the position was exactly the opposite and that Scotland contributed much more to the UK economy than its other partners. This was, of course, before the oil boom.
I realised that the Treasury would wish to keep this a secret, as it might feed nationalistic tendencies north of the border, which at that time were very weak. I took the decision to keep an eye on the situation to see how long it would take for the true facts to emerge, which I felt would only be a short time. However, the Treasury and the Establishment did an excellent job, aided and abetted by the media, to keep the myth about Scotland alive.
In fact it took another 30 years before the first chink in their armour started to appear. This came unexpectedly on 13 January 1997 when, in reply to a series of questions put by SNP Leader in the Commons, Alex Salmond MP to the then Tory government, Treasury Minister William Waldegrave admitted that Scotland had paid a massive £27 billion more to the London Exchequer than it had received since the Tories came to power in 1979. Statistically this works out at £5,400 for every Scot.
There were no attempts to refute these figures, which caused much embarrassment to the Tory Government of the day. However, the facts were quickly covered up by the Unionist controlled media.
Then a year later with a Labour government now in power came a further bombshell. Following further promptings by the SNP, on 21 August 1998, Mr Salmond received a letter from the House of Commons Library (ref. 98/8/56 EP/rjt) which gave a table showing that based on Scotland's GDP per capita, Scotland would occupy 7th place in the world's wealth league. The UK was at 17th Place.
When the Labour government came to power it announced a 1p cut in the standard rate of income tax. From my detailed knowledge of income tax, I felt that this was the worst possible thing that they could do, as extra monies would be needed following on from the Thatcher era, if they were to fulfil even a fraction of their promises to the electorate. I came to the conclusion, and I still feel that I was right, that this was done by Labour to prove to the voters of Middle England that they could match the Tories in tax cuts.
Despite the disclosures of 1998, attempts to deceive the Scottish electorate did not end there. In March 1999 a Labour Party leaflet appeared which said that if the SNP were to forego Gordon Brown's 1p cut in the standard rate of income tax, every family in Scotland would be £250 worse off. This became the major topic of a TV debate between Alex Salmond and Donald Dewar. Salmond tried to point out to Dewar that he was using the wrong figures. Watching the debate, I saw Dewar's eyes roll in his head for a few moments but he carried on regardless.
After the debate it took the Labour Party a whole week to admit that they were wrong. There was in fact a whole chain of errors which the Labour Party tried to blame on "printing mistakes". However Labour could not deny the fact that in their calculations the UK average figure, which included the high wage earners in the city of London and the booming economy in the South East corner of England (which if I may say so were the result of the selfish policies of Mrs Margaret Thatcher), the figure used was almost double those of the average Scottish wage which at that time stood at £17,000 per year.
Looking closely at the figures and taking the year 2006 as a benchmark, I found that Scotland had an annual relative surplus of £2,8 billion, which works out at £560 for every man, woman and child. In contrast the UK had a deficit of £34.8 billion.
In November 2006, the U.N. published its annual "Human Development Index". For the sixth year running, oil rich Norway topped the list, and won on such factors as generous welfare payments, education, high income and a long life expectancy. Norway wisely created an "oil fund" in 1995 which in 5 years reached a total of £250 billion, so that Norway sailed through the Credit Crunch.
Who are the real subsidy junkies?
Any lingering doubt that Scotland more than pays its way, or survives on subsidies, was dispelled by a new report published in October 2007. Whilst the Daily Mail, which by no stretch of the imagination could be described as a supporter of Scottish nationalism, devoted a whole page to the analysis of the report which was based on tax paid per capita as against spending, Northern Ireland received £4,212 more than it paid in tax, North East England £3,133, Wales £2,990, N.W. England £1732, South West England £978, West Midlands £931, East Midlands £185 and lastly Scotland £38. Only the South East corner produced a small surplus due to tax paid on the high wages within the city of London at this time (pre-Credit Crunch).
Analysis
It is no longer refuted that Scotland exports more per capita than the rest of the UK. In 1968 when I first discovered that Scotland was in surplus in relation to the rest of the UK, its exports could be broken down into whisky, meat, timber, fish, and of course tourism which is a huge hidden income. Those exports are supported by a population of only 5,000,000 as against 45,000,000 for the rest of the UK, quite a substantial advantage.
With the oil boom, Scotland's economy was transformed. Scottish oil has to date funded the Treasury with £300 billion, which has pushed Scotland up from 7th place in World Wealth rankings, had it been in control of its own resources, to 3rd place.
On 29 May 2008, Labour Chancellor Alistair Darling admitted in a back-handed way, that Scotland's oil revenue had been underwriting the UK's failure to balance its books for decades. There is still 30 years of oil supply left in the North Sea (some 150 million barrels) valued at 2008 prices at 1 trillion dollars. This excludes the new fields being brought into production in deeper waters west of Shetland.
Meantime whisky exports, which I listed in 1968 as one of Scotland's top assets, have risen at a phenomenal rate. For example, whisky exports to China amounted to £1 million in 2000/2001, by 2007 they had risen to £70 million. They have continued to rise, although I don't have more recent statistics.
On the economies of Independence, Scotland has also 18 times its requirements in North Sea gas, which on current trading is more expensive than oil. The country exports 24% of its surplus electricity south of the Border, with much of the back-up by Hydro Electric unused.
Even if nuclear is excluded, the future looks bright, the new Glen Doe hydro station on Loch Ness which was opened by Scotland's First Minister last year can produce enough electricity for 240,000 homes. Further projects down the Loch which have now reached the planning stage will increase this to over 1,000,000 homes. Wind and wave energy will also contribute significantly in the future.
No doubt as the time draws nearer to the referendum on Scottish Independence, politicians will do their best to distort the figures, but the truth is something that never varies.
Before retiring, John Jappy was a senior civil servant in the Inland Revenue, working for the Accountant & Comptroller General's Branch based at Somerset House in London. His duties involved liaising closely with Treasury officials to prepare accounts and financial information for UK government ministers.
Wow was my reaction as well.
Thanks for this article Mr Jappy.
Could I suggest that one of our MSP's contact Mr happy and gain his assistance in framing the correct questions to be submitted at Westminster and through FOI requests to flush out these facts.
There is nothing more effective than having an ally who has worked inside the system, knows where the bodies lie and is wise to the cover up tricks that are used.
Hi, deepwater,
WE must be careful when we check these figures as the West of Shetland fields are NOT counted as North Sea Oil and Gas reseves. The for Norway they also have reserves in such as the Barnett's Sea that are not classed as North Sea reserves.
I'm sure a search for Norwegian Oil & Gas reserves and one for
Scotland's will soon expose a fairly good figure.
In 1975, following recommendations made by the Management Review Committee, the income tax assessing and recovery work hitherto carried out by the Chief Inspector of Taxes and the Accountant and Comptroller General, was reconstituted in a merged regional structure overseen by management divisions. The Accountant and Comptroller General's Office was abolished and end of year accounting on a national basis became the responsibility of the newly created Finance Division's Central Accounting Office.
"Before retiring, John Jappy was a senior civil servant in the Inland Revenue, working for the Accountant & Comptroller General's Branch based at Somerset House in London. His duties involved liaising closely with Treasury officials to prepare accounts and financial information for UK government ministers."
I have no problem with Mr Jappy's overall assessment of the fiscal situation vis-a-vis Scotland but I'd like clarification of this statement. Do you really mean A&CG?
Admittedly, my experience of working for the IR in Somerset/Bush Houses dates only from the 80s but I can't remember us dealing with excise duties on whisky (HM Customs and Excise dealt with them). Nor were the ONS statistical returns as detailed as described. Maybe things were diferent back in the sixties.
Let's not get carried away by enthusiasm for a well-written article without being certain of all the facts behind it.
This is in some ways a better article than the above -
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Can I instigate some thought on the title of this article by posing the question;
"Would Scotland remaining within the UK be financially sound?"
Can I instigate some thought on the title of this article by posing the question;
"Would Scotland remaining within the UK be financially sound?"
O/T - BBC Scotland blog open
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Interesting for BBC to choose that story for comments, no?
publications.parliament.uk/.../...
The article gives the date and the names of those involved, so it wasn't hard to search for it.
Has Niall Aslen's site changed its address?
HELLO FELLOW CYBERNATS,
FROM WHAT I'VE FOUND OUT SO FAR, THE CREDENTIALS OF THIS STORY CHECK OUT.
ANY STATEMENT SUCH AS THIS MUST ALWAYS CARRY RESERVATIONS UNTIL THE LAST PIECE OF EVIDENCE IS RECEIVED AND THE ARTICLE IS CAPABLE OF ROBUST SCRUTINY BY ALL.
I JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU KNOW.
GET IT USED, GET US INDEPENDENT.
"The pound is a poison pill for an independent Scotland"
by John Kay
A currency union requires that everyone believes a Scottish pound is indistinguishab le from an English pound, otherwise the costs and uncertainties associated with separate currencies are unavoidable. And equivalence can exist only if it is believed to be irrevocable. That outcome can be achieved by a treaty, with appropriate fiscal rules – although the eurozone experience means that the world will in future take a sceptical view of similar arrangements.
Such a treaty could certainly be agreed. It might, however, cause people to start wondering what the point of independence was in the first place."
"The pound is a poison pill for an independent Scotland"
by John Kay
It appears that no one in Westminster has any interest in getting to the bottom of the RBS failure presumably because too many others would come under close scrutiny for their part in the financial meltdown.
Just seen on Sky News that one of Cameron's considerations behind the removal of Sir Fred's knighthood was his intention to damage Alex Salmond because of his letter of support to Goodwin at the time of the takeover that went wrong.
Salmond can't have been the only one supporting the move so someone needs to do a bit of digging to neutralise this.
Public opinion already seems to be split on whether it was fair to do this to Goodwin in the way it was done, so that should make people think who the baddies actually are in all this.
Many people saying why should there still be one-time criminals in the Lords, dictating policy to the rest of us. Then there is the culpability of Brown and Darling who did nothing to stop the situation developing. Indeed their policies positively encouraged it.
Darling coming out this a.m. saying Goodwin being treated unfairly. I can't avoid feeling his motivation in doing this is political because of his part in it. Darling claims he warned Goodwin. Did he really?
The whole thing stinks of hypocrisy.
I'm off to "Labourhame", does anyone want to join me?
There's a lot of work to do in the 30 months before the referendum.
Labour supporters to convince, respectfully of course. Let's get this debate on a proper footing where everyone has their say without being shouted down. It desn't really matter about their politics, what matters is that they are Scottish folk with a vote in the referendum who need to hear not just their side of the argument but ours so that they can make a properly informed choice and not just do what their leadership tell them to do.
However, its provisions were immediately broken by England who imposed their will by having an in-built English majority in the parliament: "We have catch'd Scotland and would keep her fast," chortled the Speaker of the English House of Commons in 1708.
sorry, I took it as a more jocular exchange, Cochrane had said that the FM had been right about something and in an amazed tone the FM said "could you repeat that last bit".
They were having a bit of bannter
I have always believed for some time that the key to Scotland becoming Independent would rest with the people of Glasgow.
And I have also feel that when the money starts to dry up over the next few years, that the less well off of us might begin to see that the grass might really be greener over the fence.
We can't rely on oil in perpetuity, but we can use the revenue from oil (in part) to invest in other industries.
"he just likes being British"..
O/T but Peter Hain is reported in today's Herald as saying that Spain could veto Scotland's EU membership.
A bit behind the times is Mr Hain which is fitting for one of yesterday's men.
Hi Ken500
can you clarify this years figures as to how you get the difference of £ 10 billion - Im probably being a bit thick, so for me its big crayons and sketchpad ;)
O/T apologies if this has been posted before, it's an article about the BBC head appearing before a Holyrood Committee
thedrum.co.uk/.../...
"The problem is likely to be producing the food Scotland wants, rather than what it needs. .
it's an utter disgrace. I'm all up for causing some peaceful chaos. How would one go about taking these frauds to court?
the FM DID NOT support light touch banking regulation,
The question the media should be asking is:
Would an independent England be financially sound?
Independence light is now off the agenda according to Cameron so the folks that were looking at this now have only one way to go namely independence.
thousand copies maybe just maybe some of these undecided will be inclined to vote yes for independence..
Another Whitehall scandal emerging.
Civil Servants avoid tax - approved by Danny Alexander.
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