by Joan McAlpine
 
First of all congratulations to the BBC News Channel for changing the headline “UK Riots” to “English Riots” on their coverage. I hope Sky and CNN follow the BBC’s example.  The change undoubtedly came because of complaints from Scotland. I was involved in a twitter debate on this earlier (I am on holiday as of today and have space to tweet and blog for the first time in ages).

The violence in English cities is dreadful and one really feels for those affected. The killings in Birmingham, apparently of young men defending their community, are particularly sickening.  But the solidarity of those organising clean ups is inspiring.  It is absolutely right that Scots express support.  That is why the Scottish Government is allowing police from our country to be sent south to help.  When Northern Ireland last year had a water crisis we sent over supplies.  We co-operated with the police authorities in England during the terrorist attacks of 2007.  All fine examples of the different nations of these islands working together.
 
However misreporting of “UK Riots” is unhelpful and inaccurate and has offended many people in Scotland.  Exclusively Scottish problems - for example football related sectarianism - are not reported as a UK issue.  That’s quite right.  If the riots were exclusive to Glasgow, Edinburgh and Dundee, would they be reported as a UK problem?  If they were only in Belfast and Derry would they be UK Riots?  Nobody is pretending Scotland doesn’t have its share of social ills, with alcohol and knife violence for example.  We are facing up to these and taking responsibility.  We don't have to be tarnished with violence that is not of our making.

Scotland has historically had better police-community relations than the big English cities.  Not perfect, but better.  The anti Poll Tax protests, for example, began in Scotland but turned into violent disorder in London.  There are complex reasons for this, and we should not be complacent.  In particular we do not want to encourage copycat violence, such as we saw in some Northern English towns after the London riots.  It’s important to distinguish Scotland from this.

Why?  Because at a time of severe economic contraction, with tourism a vital sector supporting many jobs, do we really want Americans and Europeans cancelling their planned trips to the Edinburgh Festival because “UK Riots” are leading the news on CNN?  This is not a trivial point, it concerns people's jobs at a time of great economic uncertainty.  At such a time, is it not right the Scottish Government does everything it can to encourage visitors by pointing out that we are a different country, with no riots, that remains open for business?

A few seem determined to deny Scotland’s distinctive identity as a nation, insisting we are part of the UK and just as responsible for the riots.  That position has little traction.  The campaign against Scottish self-determination that unites Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats is to be built around the virtues of being in the UK.  But the riots, along with deep public spending cuts and welfare reforms that hurt the sick and vulnerable,  are not a great advertisment for the UK brand.   This morning David Cameron said the riots were “Britain” at its worse.  If he means Britain as Greater England then fair enough.  Count us out.  We'll get on with the job of building something better.


Courtesy of Joan McAlpine http://joanmcalpine.typepad.com/
Joan is the SNP MSP for South Scotland

Comments  

 
# clootie 2011-08-11 07:20
"A few seem determined to deny Scotland’s distinctive identity as a nation, insisting we are part of the UK"

This is the main purpose of the standard issued to the lap dogs in the MSM.

I don't think it was aimed at the riots in partcular but the automatic compliance with the directive resulted in a UK slant. Every news article and a host of programmes are now loaded with a "British slant"

I'll just be glad when these European riots are over.
 
 
# chiefy1724 2011-08-11 07:27
Just listened to Pete Wishart on WWJ this morning being asked about The First Eck's comments that the Riots were nothing to do with Scotland.

"Its Called Stating The Bleeding Obvious".

For your delight and edification, The Great Tangerine Jelly Himself is sitting in for Kaye with an E this morning and is inviting people to call in about the riots and their effect on Scotland.

On 0500 929500

That could be quite entertaining methinks
 
 
# cokynutjoe 2011-08-11 07:36
See Darcus Howe's interview on Bella.
 
 
# J Wil 2011-08-11 14:54
His description of the shooting that started all this frenzy was graphic and did not pull any punches. The BBC woman was at her wits end trying to stop him from speaking. She tried to shew him away. I don't think we will ever see him being interviewed again.
 
 
# Holebender 2011-08-12 16:01
Did anyone else notice the daft bint addressing him as "Marcus Dow" to start with?
 
 
# UpSpake 2011-08-11 08:02
Joan. There is no virtue in being part of the UK anymore, if there ever was. The BBC and the MSM just don't get Scotland, fair enough. In an independent Scotland there, hopefully will be no more BBC. As for the MSM, they are already in their death throes. With luck, they will disappear altogether and will we miss them, probably not !.
 
 
# chiefy1724 2011-08-11 08:06
To See "Ourselves" as others see us:

A Brief and highly selective selection of how the rest of the world is reporting "Britain's Riots"

Fox (US)
London Calm as Riots Flare Across United Kingdom VIDEO: U.K. in Crisis

An eerie calm settles in Britain, but cost of violence is high.
Riots spread across London and UK

YLE (Finland )

The riots, which began in London over the weekend with a protest over a police shooting, have now spread to other parts of Britain

ABC (US)
British Police out in Force as Violence Subsides

Britain's cities were largely quiet early Thursday

Britain's soccer authorities were talking with police Wednesday to see whether this weekend's season-opening matches of the Premier League

Britain's riots began Saturday

MSNBC (US)

Soul searching lies ahead as riots cool in Britain

Although to be fair, they do mention “cities across England” but it is this just the standard Amurrican conflation of England With Britain ?

CBS (US)

You have to really dig to find out about “Teen injured in London riots mugging recovers”

Deutsche Welle (Germany)

'UK-style riots unlikely in Germany'

“Now London, or rather Britain, is a different kettle of fish. You have more than just criminal incidents, you have a whole underclass of youngsters coming from ghettos that are not integrated or integrateable, so to speak, into British society”.

France 24 (France)

Cameron marooned as 'Big Society' goes up in smoke
(Really good article BTW. france24.com/.../...)

Xinhua (China)

British PM Insists on fightback against London Rioters

On Tuesday night, riots again hit Britain for the fourth night in succession, with significant violence in the northern industrial city of Manchester and Wolverhampton, as well as minor violence in London.

NHK (Japan)
Cameron vows to fight back vs rioters

But Britain is braced for more turmoil. Observers say the riots by the young may have been fuelled by austerity measures and the nation's high unemployment rate.


Times of India

Riots effect: UK drops 'You're invited' tourism advert
Britain burns: UK PM recalls Parliament, riots spread to other major cities

Russia Today

“English riots need deeper solution than police and military”
 
 
# BeltaneFire 2011-08-11 08:32
Xinhua (China)

British PM Insists on fightback against "London Rioters

On Tuesday night, riots again hit Britain for the fourth night in succession, with significant violence in the northern industrial city of Manchester and Wolverhampton, as well as minor violence in London."

Just to prove the England/Britain thing, the Chinese describe Manchester as a "northern industrial city". I will avoid stating the obvious. Perhaps all these countries tv stations don't really regard us as part of Britain. Anyway, if we all get out and campaign over the next few years, this will be a fact soon enough.
 
 
# J Wil 2011-08-11 14:56
A newsreader on the BBC described Manchester and Liverpool as the North West.
 
 
# Marga B 2011-08-11 09:27
"Riots effect: UK drops 'You're invited' tourism advert" - can the rest of the UK get their money back?

Maybe it'll be an awakening for the English that they do have a country and a nationality, just like the Scots and the Irish, which makes them special, though in this context not in a positive sense.
 
 
# john__ 2011-08-11 08:51
I made this comment on another thread, but given that the trigger for the riots was a protest against the policing of a certain area, and given that policing is devolved to the Scottish government (1000 extra police on the streets) then it has to be reasonable to assert that the conditions for starting the riots stop at the border. They may also not exist in other areas of England, but they most definately do not exist in Scotland. It is not necessarily to do with a different society up here (although I think there is a bit of that, but that this point is at least debateable).

John
 
 
# Jimbo 2011-08-11 10:12
There's one thing that Labour's Gray, Liberal's Rennie and Tory's Mundell have in common - none of them can be accused of standing up for the people and the country they're supposed to represent.
 
 
# mealer 2011-08-11 11:31
Should the Scots Govt and visitscotland be contacting foreign countries to reassure them the rioting is not happening in Scotland?
 
 
# Jimbo 2011-08-11 14:01
Hi Mealer,

Knowing the efficiency of the SNP government, that has probably already been done.
 
 
# enneffess 2011-08-11 18:44
Not had a chance to watch the debate, but has Angus Robertson made any contribution?


I posted this on the earlier article, and promptly got my head taken off.

Will people please give foreigh tourists some credit for intelligence. They can SEE where the riots have occured. If a family have booked a holiday to Edinburgh, I think you will find they know it is unaffected by the riots, is part of Scotland and miles from bloody London.

I'll accept it may cause some concern to a few tourists, but unless there are suddenly mass cancellations people need to calm down a bit and leave the attacks on the media and more importantly Cameron until after the clear up.
 
 
# Robert Louis 2011-08-11 20:04
I partly agree, NFS. Some tourists will understand.

The problem is, that some foreign people won't see the distinction. You forget that some people visiting Scotland really, really do not know the difference. Could you name the separate prefectures of Japan, specifiying those affected by radiation, and those that are safe?? It isn't easy when you do not know a country very well at all.

The Scottish Tourist industry just does not need this rubbish. Not for one nanosecond.
 
 
# Saltire Groppenslosh 2011-08-11 21:18
Okay, I'm in a daft mood - possibly the thought of getting up at 4am tomorrow. But I got sent this on Facebook. It mentions the riots in Edinburgh ??? Give it a watch - go on - go on, go on.

www.youtube.com/.../
 
 
# Arbroath1320 2011-08-11 22:08
Only one question Saltire.

WHERE WERE THE POLICE?

I can't remember the last time I saw such levels of violent destruction. :D

This level of rioting is DISGRACEFUL. Copycat rioting like nothing else on earth. :D
 
 
# Saltire Groppenslosh 2011-08-11 21:25
The YouTube video came from a friend in North Carolina. And from what I understand from other friends around the globe, they know that it's not Scotland that's involved.
 
 
# Scottish republic 2011-08-12 15:27
It certainly was all an explosion in the context of unemployment, zero opportunities and a penchant for sports gear, TVs and photographic equipment.

The idea was for these thieves to make some money and they did, but it's just the start and I await the true rioting resulting from the cutbacks in a year or two.

There are always riots when the Tories wield their right-wing philosophical axe.
 
 
# Saltire Groppenslosh 2011-08-12 20:18
What a wit Arbroath hahaha - incidentally, got up at 4 am ran down the hill to Bolton then to Burnley then back up the hill for 4 pm. What a globetrotting life lol. Whyte & McKay made it better zzzzzzzzz.
 
 
# Arbroath1320 2011-08-12 20:32
Ah the good old "water of life". What more can I say. Enjoy Saltire. Slàinte mhath! :D
 
 
# RJBH 2011-08-13 07:00
So again... Alex Salmond speaks for Scotland.. and is derided by Ian Gray who called Alex words .."Embarassing"...Another reason one would think why Gray and his band of unionist will never regain power in Scotland.
 

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