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  By a Newsnet reporter  
 
What’s been the biggest political story this week?  Yes, that’s correct; it’s David Cameron’s announcement of an In/Out referendum on EU membership for the UK.
 
In one fell swoop Cameron put Scotland’s future EU membership in doubt whilst at the same time grabbing Eurosceptic Middle England from underneath Ed Miliband’s nose.  The Tories are now a shoe in for the 2015 UK general election and UKIP have been neutered.

Now ask yourself just how damaging is this EU referendum is to the pro-Union Better Together campaign?  Right again, it’s extremely damaging. 

Alistair Darling and other assorted Unionists have been arguing for months that Scotland’s EU membership is secure only from within the UK.  The only threat to that EU membership was independence.

That argument is now shot to pieces.

What then you may ask, was the top political story on the BBC Online news on the morning of Cameron’s speech?  The answer is a poll, the headline of which informed readers that independence was at its lowest since devolution – sitting at, we were told, 23%.

On Good Morning Scotland it took host Gary Robertson just 1 minute 50 seconds before reporting on the Scottish Social Attitudes Survey (SSAS) poll.  Robertson and his co-presenter Hayley Millar then wasted no time in performing the daily ritual that hears them read out newspaper headlines from exclusively pro-Union news vendors.

“Lots of coverage of the Social Attitudes survey” said Robertson – and he wasn’t joking as the usual suspects received their daily free advert, courtesy of the licence payer.

Thus, the ‘spoiler’ was off and running and damage limitation - or ‘news’ as BBC Scotland would describe it - had begun.

Accurate

But just how accurate was this survey?  The opinions were apparently taken between the summer and autumn of 2012.  Some of you might remember two high profile events took place last summer, events that some might say could have influenced some Scots who took part in the survey.

The Queen’s Jubilee and the Olympics were Union Flag waving jamborees receiving wall to wall coverage.  It was ‘British this’ and ‘Team GB that’ as Unionists wallowed in the billion pound spectacles and no doubt laughed their way to the ‘polling bank’.

That this poll showed a healthy ‘pro-Union balance’ after the Britfest isn’t surprising.  It was also mostly carried out before the Edinburgh Agreement at a time when Unionists were attacking the timetable and legality of any referendum.

There is also the small matter of the questions asked in the poll:

Scotland should become independent, separate from the UK and the European Union
AND
Scotland should become independent, separate from the UK but part of the European Union

Now here’s something that might surprise you – I don’t want Scotland to be “separate” from the UK and the EU, heck I might have voted against.  Leaving aside the fact that it is quite impossible to be separate from the UK – like a bad marriage it will just end after independence - I want to keep a relationship with our closest neighbours.

And what of this word “separate”?  I seem to recall this word being favoured by those of a pro-Union persuasion in order to describe independence.

In the previous four years of this survey, support for this ‘separate independence’ has been 24%, 28%, 23% and 32% respectively, so 23% and 24% have been markers in recent years.

Now it isn’t the fact that this poll has been covered in the news – it was newsworthy, indeed some of the results were very interesting.  But as ever with BBC Scotland, the editors and producers took a tabloid approach and instead of supplying professional and objective analysis, they applied the same partisan editorial line as pro-Union newspapers did and ‘spun’ the 23% aspect.

Last year the poll revealed that almost two thirds of Scots would back independence if they were £500 better off.  That particular ‘man bites dog’ figure was a headline – it was unexpectedly high, but the 23% figure from this poll isn’t the surprise news that the headlines and profile suggested.

Indeed the poll was out of date having been overtaken by events and other more up to date polls.

But it served to deflect from the EU story – which was good luck to the survey report’s co-author, Professor John Curtice, who managed yet again to appear across the entire broadcast spectrum offering his well-worn opinions on how disappointing the results were for the Yes campaign … etc, etc.

Ireland

The story worked for Thursday, and things looked bleak for the No campaign on the news front when it emerged that Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon was to make a speech in Ireland on Friday which would focus on Cameron’s EU referendum.

But BBC Scotland had a cunning trick up their sleeve in the shape of Raymond Buchanan and ‘the question’.

Raymond became the latest BBC Scotland reporter to ask ‘the question’ that has no answer until Westminster ask it.  What would the status of an independent Scotland be in the EU?

Surprisingly and rather disappointingly, Ireland's European affairs minister Lucinda Creighton said a newly independent Scotland would be thrown out of the EU and have to re-apply.  Not only that, but according to Ms Creighton, the re-application would be a lengthy process.

Manna from heaven to BBC Scotland who now had the ‘spoiler’ they could run instead of focussing exclusively on the Deputy First Minister.

The item on Reporting Scotland from Buchanan was predictable – focusing in the “humiliating” Irish bank bailout and then a poorly edited video clip of Ms Creighton making her claim, followed by Michael Moore repeating the claim.  As ever, Sturgeon was broadcast addressing the negative claim extracted by Buchanan’s question.

Just what mechanism would be used in order to throw Scotland out of the EU on independence day didn’t appear to interest Mr Buchanan who, from the evidence presented didn’t ask. 

Neither was the BBC Scotland man interested in the fate of Scots currently living and working throughout the EU or the EU students currently studying in Scotland who would face repatriation from Scotland if Ms Creighton is correct.

Buchanan wasn’t the first to explore Europe in search of politicians willing to tell him of the uncertainty and doom that awaited an independent Scotland in the EU.

Glenn Campbell was at it last week when he managed to get the required headlines after visits to the Czech Republic and Slovakia.

One of the BBC headlines -’Slovakia's Lajcak says no clear answer to independent Scotland's EU future’ - was actually a misrepresentation.  Miroslav Lajcak had actually refused to give any opinion on Scotland’s position, but the BBC made one up anyway.

The Czech Republic’s Karel Schwarzenberg on the other hand was less reticent and volunteered his opinion – warning that Scotland would lose out if it became independent.  Cue another headline.

But what questions have BBC Scotland actually asked the European Commission on the subject?  Since Jose Manuel Barroso gave his interview last month, just how many times has BBC Scotland sought clarification from the EC President?

Have they asked by what mechanism states such as Scotland and Catalonia might be expelled, as is being claimed?  What provisions, if any, have been made to facilitate the smooth transition should independence be achieved?

Freedom of Information

To find out what information our intrepid BBC Scotland reporters, paid for by us, had attempted to extract from Mr Barroso’s office we sent a Freedom of Information request to the BBC asking them.

They refused to tell us.

As revealed by Newsnet Scotland in the article – The Untouchables – the BBC are indeed untouchable.

Here’s what they said:

The information you have requested is excluded from the Act because it is held for the purposes of ‘journalism, art or literature.’ The BBC is therefore not obliged to provide this information to you and will not be doing so on this occasion. Part VI of Schedule 1 to FOIA provides that information held by the BBC and the other public service broadcasters is only covered by the Act if it is held for ‘purposes other than those of journalism, art or literature”.

The BBC is not required to supply information held for the purposes of creating the BBC’s output or information that supports and is closely associated with these creative activities.1 You may not be aware that one of the main policy drivers behind the limited application of the Act to public service broadcasters was to protect freedom of expression and the rights of the media under Article 10 European Convention on Human Rights (“ECHR”).

The BBC, as a media organisation, is under a duty to impart information and ideas on all matters of public interest and the importance of this function has been recognised by the European Court of Human Rights. Maintaining our editorial independence is a crucial factor in enabling the media to fulfil this function.

The problem of course is that there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that BBC Scotland has asked any further questions of the EC and Mr Barroso since his interview just before Christmas.  If they had done then surely they would have broadcast and published the answers.

We suspect that BBC Scotland has no intention of asking questions that might serve to cast doubt on claims that Scotland will be thrown out of the EU and have to re-apply.  They won’t press any EC politician or official to explain the mechanism that will see Scots stripped of their rights as EU citizens.

They most certainly won’t pursue the suggestion by a leading American professor that both Scotland and England will be treated as equals should the Union end.  Nor will they press the UK government on just why Westminster is refusing to take up the offer made by First Minister Alex Salmond to have a joint approach to the EC in order to clarify the issue.

The whole coverage of the membership issue as presented by BBC Scotland, as everyone knows, is a charade.  There is no certainty because there can never be certainty, the situation is unprecedented.

Asking the dumb question of European politicians who are in no position to give a definitive answer is designed only to keep the membership ‘uncertainty’ going.

Scotland’s continuation within the EU is one of probability and it can be determined with relative ease if an independent Scotland is more likely to be booted out or allowed to negotiate from within.  The debate, if it were honest, would focus on that and inform the Scottish people.

“Do you think Scotland will be thrown out of the EU if independent?” would be an interesting question to ask.  Buchanan, Campbell and the rest will no more pose that question than they will read out a headline from Newsnet Scotland on Newsnight.

Now, what was the big story this week … something about David Cameron? … Oh, I can’t remember … ach it couldn’t have been that important.

 

[Notice - Newsnet Scotland has been made aware of a planned rally/march scheduled to take place on Saturday February 23rd at around 4pm in Glasgow.  The rally will call for an open and balanced referendum debate from broadcasters but will be strictly non-partisan.  We will provide further details as and when we receive them.] 

Comments  

 
# Will C 2013-01-26 02:32
I think it is time that we Scots who wish to govern ourselves woke up and smelt the coffee. The black propaganda of the BBC and the unionist press must be countered. We are in a situation of media manipulation which threatens our very democracy. If the smears, distortions and lies of the unionist establishment is not exposed ASAP we will lose the Referendum.
 
 
# IWantToBreakFree 2013-01-26 04:02
We need to shout out about this and demonstrate outside the BBC to bring attention to this bias, and elsewhere where bias exists.

It is not enough to only highlight this bias here and in other pro Independence online news sources.

We are kidding ourselves if we think that the lethargic “don’t knows” and the “mights” are studying online pro Independence sites. We have got to be very proactive in highlighting all these broadcasting and journalistic anomalies.

You can bet your bottom dollar that the BBC personnel referred too in this item and all their colleagues along with all the “No” activists will had read this item as well and will be basking in the discomfort that we all feel. We can’t allow this to continue. It has to be highlighted and exposed.
 
 
# Big Eye 2013-01-26 04:19
Is there no point where unionist supporters say enough is enough?

I make this suggestion to the Yes campaign.

Why not, every month, publish a list of unionist scare stories that hit the buffers as they are shown to be patently untrue?

My only explanation is a shortage of paper?
 
 
# Am Fògarrach 2013-01-26 06:46
The Newsnet reporter appears to be unaware that membership of the EU would be as deleterious to the interests of independent Scotland as Scotland’s membership through the UK is now.

[Admin - The reporter may or may not be unaware. The subject of this article is the apparent attempts to dilute news that may have aided the pro-independence campaign.]

Ample proof of this statement can be provided but Newsnet seems to prefer to follow the SNP party line on this subject.

Independent Scotland should become a member of the European Economic Area (EEA) and the European Free trade Association (EFTA). The EEA provides open access to the Single European Market as well as the European research and development facilities, allows participation in drafting EU legislation, leaves Scotland its own fishing and agriculture policies and more, and provides all the economic benefits Scotland needs.

But most important, independent Scotland would be truly independent in EEA/EFTA. If Scotland chooses the EU it would only be exchanging its present vassalage to Westminster for vassalage to Brussels.
 
 
# fynesider 2013-01-26 11:07
"Independent Scotland should become a member of the European Economic Area (EEA) and the European Free trade Association (EFTA). "

Totally agree..... In EFTA out of EU

Also OUT of NATO as well
 
 
# X_Sticks 2013-01-26 15:19
Don't agree.

EFTA is expensive and while you have to abide by ALL the EU trade rules to get to play, you have absolutely NO say in what those rules are or how they are shaped.

Perhaps wealthy Scandinavian countries can afford to play this game, I don't think it will be in the interests of a newly independent Scotland. There is far more to be gained by being a full member of the European Union.

Whether we join the Euro or not is another question.
 
 
# colin8652 2013-01-27 10:27
lets just ALL focus on getting off our backsides and going out campaigning for independence. and decide what we want to do with it after the fact.
 
 
# Albalha 2013-01-26 07:31
Surely they should be asking the PM's, Deputy PM's and FM's of the EU- 27 what their opinion is, BBC Scotland could present it to us as a poll, maybe, for all the weight it would carry.

O/T I've been commenting on the ******* Guardian piece by New Labour's campaign organiser of the BT campaign, anyway @Albannach, who I'm sure comments here, came up with, in a comment - VOTE NO GET NOTHING - it's new to me, and I think it should be everywhere, simple and to the point.
 
 
# art1001 2013-01-26 09:21
I think we should be targeting the poor and disadvantage with a :

CUT CAMERON'S BENEFITS - VOTE YES

It would be equivalent of Bannockburn where the ordinary folk and camp followers got stuck in as well.
 
 
# gayle 2013-01-26 07:48
It is in the NO campaigns interest to keep the Scots ignorant. Heaven forbid they are told the truth and credited with enough intelligence to make an informed decision that isn't based on outdated and irrelevant polls.
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2013-01-26 09:40
I do like these factual reports from NNS highlighting BBC and MSM propaganda. Excellent stuff.

I doubt very much the negative vibes will change, and I know that Scots are no where near as gullible as the BBC and MSM would want us to be.
 
 
# Zed 2013-01-26 10:14
I believe it's important to let your feelings be known in places like Twitter & Facebook.
Both Scotland Tonight & Newsnight Scotland post upcoming programme information on Twitter & FB.
Tell them your not going to watch biased programmes.
On a few occaisions I've raised the content and balance of the programme with ST and basically told them if that what I have to watch I'll not bother and just go to bed.
They may change their tune if their ratings start to fall.
 
 
# mealer 2013-01-26 10:17
I think an awful lot of Scots,quite probably a majority of Scots,accept that the BBC is pro-union.I hope everyone here will be making an effort to support the YES campaign day of action.Not sitting at home girning about BBC bias on the Scotsman comments.Work!!!
 
 
# IamSparticus 2013-01-26 11:59
Absolutely agree Mealer, time to start help build the grass roots campaign we need if you haven't already. The best way to reach people is to start talking to folk and helping out with YES events, engaging people on a personal level. Not everyone is switched on to online news sites, blogs, twitter and the rest.

I was out in Stewarton and Kilmarnock last week helping out the East Ayrshire campaign. I'll be down Kilmarnock high street today as well helping out at the event there. The referendum is only next year and there's lots of work to be done. Time to start doing!
 
 
# scotswhahae 2013-01-28 11:39
Quoting mealer:
I think an awful lot of Scots,quite probably a majority of Scots,accept that the BBC is pro-union.I hope everyone here will be making an effort to support the YES campaign day of action.Not sitting at home girning about BBC bias on the Scotsman comments.Work!!!


Couldn't agree more mealer.
 
 
# clootie 2013-01-26 10:21
The blatant bias of the BBC is unbelievable. They don't even attempt to disguise it.

Their mission is to create enough concern / doubt / fear that a NO vote gets home.

''''''''and I'm paying for it!
 
 
# spagan 2013-01-26 10:22
I've emailed Lucinda Creighton just politely enquiring if she had intended supporting the Westminster Government against the Scottish Government.
It's very easy to find her official office email contact details.
 
 
# Albalha 2013-01-26 10:46
When it comes to Ireland, they're not the biggest fans of sharing, remember the initial rejection of the Nice treaty? Most politicians these days are self serving, who knows what they really believe.
 
 
# amfraeembro 2013-01-26 10:48
I've also emailed her, asking exactly what facts, laws or treaties she based her opinion on.
 
 
# Old Smokey 2013-01-26 11:21
The qestion that should be posed to Lucinda Creighton is this 'Do you have a comlete understanding of how the UK was established and that it was established under a Treaty between the Kingdoms of Scotland and England'? Ive a sneeking feeling that Lucinda thinks the UK in relation to Scotland,is the same as it was between the UK and Ireland prior to partion and the Irish Republic ad does not grasp the fact that the Uk is a Treaty State in itself. You end the union therfore you end the UK. By this sae token I am completely and utterly fed up of SNP politicians not grasping this reality and continually talk in terms of 'UK and Scotland'in when refering to post independnt Scotland.THIS HAS TO STOP! I want the SNP and those in Yes Sotland to grasp the nettle and call a spade a spade and refer to England as England or to England,Wales&N Ireland and stop using the term UK.Unionists like to refer to 'ending the union' but willalways refer to 'Scotland leaving the UK' Scotland is ENDING the UK!
 
 
# Nebulosity 2013-01-26 14:56
I've also emailed Lucinda Creighton to politely enquire as to what is the legal basis of her comments, and if her comments constitute an official position of the Irish Government regarding Scotland and the EU. I would urge everyone to do likewise if they are concerned by her intervention.

I would also urge everyone to email BBC Scotland and the relevant journalist/broadcaster questioning them every time they broadcast an unfounded and non-impartial statement regarding the issues surrounding the independence referendum.
 
 
# mudfries 2013-01-26 10:40
The unionist press are only fooling themselves, remember they were predicting a labour victory before the last scottish election! we all know what happened. The BBC are like that guy who was on the TV during the Iraq invasion - telling reporters his enemys will be crushed at a press conference in Baghdad when you could see the american tanks in the background! The BBC deserves to be treated with contempt for the way it twists everything to suit its own anti independence agenda, "unbiased and impartial", what a joke.
 
 
# Barbazenzero 2013-01-26 11:09
I seem to recall the media called him Comical Ali. An appropriate moniker for the leader of the Bitter Together campaign, perhaps.
 
 
# curley bill 2013-01-26 11:19
Which will be used every time I refer to him from now on!
 
 
# Barbazenzero 2013-01-28 13:07
Withdrawn. It's Cochers of the Torygraph who is most worthy of the Comical Ali moniker.

See telegraph.co.uk/.../... & passim
 
 
# BillCo 2013-01-26 11:04
I listened to 5 minutes of today's 'Good Morning Scotland' as a journo, whose name I missed, chose the various topics to highlight from today's papers. When asked by Bateman what the main political story was I thought he might have talked about Nicola Sturgeon's speech in Dublin. But no, he chose a subject of no consequence to the vast majority of Scots - the speech made by 'Baby' Ruth Davidson on the 'direction' the Scottish Tories should take to win back the trust of the Scottish people. No mention whatsoever was made of Sturgeon's speech.

As an aside, was it co-incidental that her speech was made on the same day as Nicola Sturgeon was speaking in Dublin I wonder - in other words part of Bitter Together's tactic of stealing the limelight from the Yes Campaign.
 
 
# Old Smokey 2013-01-26 13:02
I also listened to this morning's GMS.I thought Derek Bateman had tongue firmly in cheek when he stated that they had been talking about the Yes Campaign,in rference to the unionist survey,so for a bit of balance interviewed Jackie Baillie, there followedm crap from Baillie, who kept to doctrine of attacking the SNP specificly instead of argueing against teh Yes Scotland campaign .Bateman give his due to try to correct her, but I felt wasnt really pushing home the counter arguement. Baillie mentioned that her father is Portugues and mother Scottish and I think a grandparent is Welsh as some kind of sop to say that we are all one big happy family with England. (Cant remember Portugal being part of the UK). What seemed to escape Baillie,the fact that Portugal had its Revolution in 1974 which overthrew the single party state. Perhaps she was advocating that Scotland has it own revolution to overthrow the union with England, then again perhaps I have my tongue firmly in my cheek
 
 
# Breeks 2013-01-26 11:06
I think the point is that a positive campaign doesn't get involved with muck raking or abuse. I like the way both Alex Salmond, Blair Jenkins etc are all calm and unflustered in presenting their position.

Contrast this with Ian Davidson's histionics, Alistair Darling's joyless monologues, and the supine unionist media pedalling misrepresnted stories and half truths which don't bear any close scrutiny. It's all so very tiresome. I don't believe people will weary of the positive message of the YES campaign, but the endless negativity of Better Together will be a sore test of their endurance.

Let me quote Vincent Partal's Reason 15:

I am independentist because [these days] I look at people, in their eyes, and see the contagious happiness...

That's the mood which we should all encourage to take root in Scotland, - because it's game over for Better Together when it does.

We just need wider belief that we can win, and we will.
 
 
# Leader of the Pack 2013-01-26 11:27
The referendum result is going to be won or lost on timing the campaign impeccably. The problem the No Campaign has is that they have to sustain their lies and misinformation over the next 2 years where events will open them all up to further scutiny and clarification! They may very well get away with initially telling bare faced lies but its far harder to sustain a lie over a period of time in fact the more time goes by the harder the lie is to sustain and inevitably unravels. Timing is the key. Unravelling these lies JUST before the polling day is the key so its fresh in the minds of the electorate when they enter the booth. Unravelling them now will have much less of an impact come the day of destiny. The lies and their exposure at the most crucial time can be the key to an overwhelming vote in favour of Independence. What if Catalonia gains its Independence before 2012? And their position in the EU is secured? What happens to the lie then?
 
 
# bringiton 2013-01-26 11:40
Would an independent Scotland be in Ireland,'s interest ?
One of the cornerstones of their economic "boom" was their ability to attract companies into the EU with a much lower rate of corporation tax than elsewhere.
Hence Nicola's statement in her speech about a "race to the bottom".
Countries always act in their own self interest so I am not too surprised when Irish politicians make these sort of statements.
 
 
# curley bill 2013-01-26 11:52
I thought that myself.
I often say on here that I listen daily to RTE1, Ireland's state radio station, where it is regularly pointed out that the UK is Ireland's biggest trading partner.
Assuming they conflate the terms 'UK' and 'England' - which seems to be the default position in the EU - then Ms Creighton's stance is extremely understandable.
 
 
# Jimbo 2013-01-26 12:21
The BBC is not required to supply information held for the purposes of creating the BBC’s output or information that supports and is closely associated with these creative activities.

Creative activities: An excellent way to describe the BBC's anti independence/anti Scottish government shenanigans.
 
 
# UpSpake 2013-01-26 12:33
The BBC is not required ??. Oh really. Their very existance depends on the tax exerted from the people, many against their will to provide all this drivel.
If the people, who are sovereign in Scotland, request information from the BBC then the BBC are required to provide it.
Failure to do so puts them above the people and therefore omnipotent. If the BBC is not responsible to parliament (UK) then it is a law unto itself and therefore untouchable.
Only option, throttle their lifeblood. If the British State come to their rescue then they truly are, an arm of the State.
 
 
# call me dave 2013-01-26 13:02
M6 snow leaves drivers stranded

bbc.co.uk/.../...

For example no rush to have the transport minister resign! Why Oh . .!

It's not BBC Scotland's patch.

I said on another thread that the Irish visit by N. Sturgeon was bushwhacked by the BBC. They are looking for and, in this case, got an opportunity to do some damage.

Good old BBC.
 
 
# Dowanhill 2013-01-26 14:03
Yeah, no sign of the BBC persistently looking to blame a Transport minister for the snow?
 
 
# Marian 2013-01-26 13:52
We need look no further than the "Common Purpose" organisation to find out who is behind the unionists.
 
 
# Will C 2013-01-26 13:52
I have emailed Lucinda Creighton at to express my disappointment at her unwelcome, unhelpful and highly controversial intervention in the constitutional debate on the future of our country. I hope other folk might be of a similar mind.
 
 
# farrochie 2013-01-26 14:07
We need to know who explained the timeline of the independence referendum to Lucinda Creigton to allow her to provide her answer? She may well believe that a YES vote means instant independence, whereas Scotland remains in the UK (and EU) until the legal mechanism to independence is followed through. So we are able to negotiate terms while we are within the EU. Otherwise, as other pose, "How does Scotland get ejected?".

We also need to know the questions, in full, that Buchanan asked, not an edited account. We need to know the entire answers, not an edited and merged clip.
 
 
# farrochie 2013-01-26 22:33
It really was obvious (not to mention devious) what the BBC was doing in this selective quoting and editing of Lucinda Creighton. It was quite juvenile in its conception, certainly not mature, informed journalism. Do we ever get the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth from the BBC?

scotreferendum.com/.../...
 
 
# chicmac 2013-01-26 14:10
We must remember that it wasn't the unionists (despite Davidson's panto-esque pre-emptive strike) which scuppered the embryonic anti-bias demos. No, it was the pronouncements made by high profile SNP supporters and, much as I really admire his other contributions to the independence campaign, by the leader of the YES campaign, Blair Jenkins himself.

IMO they were both morally and strategically wrong in doing so.

If further denouncements of demos and other people actions to highlight the anti-independence media bias are made, then those demos would be bound to fail. Indeed I am now convinced that further denouncements would be counter-productive and reduce doubt in said media bias.

So, sadly, I would advise caution until such time as those indicated above announce, that in the face of ever more blatant examples, they have had a Damascene change of opinion or at least undertake to remain silent and allow the people their right to freedom of expression.
 
 
# KOF 2013-01-26 14:31
The merest amount of research about Lucinda Creighton reveals thus...
en.wikipedia.org/.../...
...Which led me to... en.wikipedia.org/.../...
Check out who is the President of the party, our old pal Mr Barroso.

Nuff said.
 
 
# Training Day 2013-01-26 14:38
Since he is mentioned in the article, a word on Curtice which merits reiteration.

If the lowest graded academic researcher had proven to be so spectacularly wrong, so publicly incompetent, so willing to opine the contrary in the face of all the available evidence - as was the case with Curtice in the run up to the 2011 election, with his frequent pronouncements about what a 'good week' it had been for Labour, or, famously, his insistence that a poll putting the SNP ahead was 'rogue' - that researcher would, at best, have been sidelined and left to work on projects of little importance. Many would have been quietly released from their employment.

That the BBC continues to employ this man tells us all we need to know.
 
 
# Jim Johnston 2013-01-26 14:46
Oh dear, are we going to have to suffer endless nothing stories about the EU, and opinions of a bunch of EU nobodies, right up to referendum day.
In case anyone has missed what's happening on planet earth these days, the EU in it's present guise is going down the tubes at a rate of knots.
Five years from now, if it exists at all, it will be a face saving name only organisation.

PM Cameron may well be as daft as a ships cat, but completely stupid he is not. He has enough gumption to know he can promise whatever he likes five years down the line to secure now his next coalition partners, (the UKIP that is for those a bit slow on the uptake), knowing that whatever the result of any EU referendum, his class wins !!

Scotland and everyone else lose, except that is, an Independent Scotland.
 
 
# farrochie 2013-01-26 15:12
Cameron will want to secure the UKIP votes. However, he has been given a virtual guarantee by Clegg that the LibDems will continue the coalition if Cameron does not get an overall majority. Scotland must vote YES to avoid Tory rule from Westminster till 2020.

guardian.co.uk/.../...
 
 
# farrochie 2013-01-26 18:04
Milliband has said that Labour will not offer an In/Out referendum on EU. Basically, he's just handed the 2015 election to the Tories. He'll do a U-turn of course, but it will show him as being led by the Tories, and the electorate will reject him.
 
 
# KOF 2013-01-26 14:54
I forgot to add this link I found.
merrionstreet.ie/.../...
I liked this line.
"During this year I want to encourage greater discussion among individuals, communities and civil society about their vision for the future of Europe. As many others have said, we need to think seriously about ways to increase democratic legitimacy and accountability."
 
 
# Leswil 2013-01-26 15:19
Perhaps the only way the BBC will be more accountable is an outcry from Scotland's top business and lawyers etc.

The best we can muster, to start a media campaign with their disapproval of the BBC, and run full page ads in the most read papers.( I cannot see the Newspapers refusing the revenue!)
( Yes, it is improbable, as it would need the backing of our top people, and of course would not be cheap.)
Also for them to take interviews and lambaste the BBC and press as being bias and misleading to the Scottish people.

So, will any stand up and be counted?
well I hope as many as possible have the courage and will to do it.
It IS something like this we need, and we need it soon or when experts say the best time would be. At least this is a opinion on how to get some media coverage.
Maybe a fund funded by Scots who feel offended as I do, could help as I am sure there are many who want to see unbiased opinions. Any other ideas?
 
 
# queen bea 2013-01-26 16:30
I think that stv studios should be protested against also, as they are complicit with the rest of the msm.
 
 
# mountain man 2013-01-26 16:59
I think the the yes campaign and the snp have been to soft on the naw campaign and their allies in the media for too long,they realy need to to a bit of negativity back on them if they dont fight back hard without fear we will lose.
 
 
# ds12 2013-01-26 17:15
I have received a very gracious reply from Lucinda Creighton,I'm sure others will have a fairly similar one.What she did say though was

"My understanding is that the Scottish Government has already committed to a negotiation with the EU between 2014 and 2016, if you vote for independence in 2014. If my interview suggested something other than that, this was not my intention. I think my comments have been misconstrued or perhaps manipulated by some quarters. I sincerely regret this."
 
 
# spagan 2013-01-26 18:01
Ditto
Have passed full text to my local MSPs and Newsnet. Bremner ****
 
 
# Will C 2013-01-26 19:37
I have also received a very courteous email from Ms Creighton along the same lines as ds12. I intend to email her back explaining what is going on in this country with regard to the unionist bias in the media in general and with particular reference to BBC Scotland.
 
 
# balbeggie 2013-01-26 20:53
www.scotreferendum.com/blog/

A copy of a email from her to Nicola Sturgeon is via the above link. Naughty BBC.
 
 
# chicmac 2013-01-27 00:49
If NS are not already planning this, and probably they are, then I vote this should have a new article to itself.
 
 
# Nebulosity 2013-01-26 22:22
I have also received a reply from Lucinda Creighton to the same effect.

This is outrageous and clearly confirms that the BBC are operating with a bias towards the no campaign. Rather than acting as the impartial public broadcaster, the BBC is deliberately manipulating stories in an attempt to portray a yes vote and its consequences in a negative light. Thats the job of the Better Together campaign and its supporters. It is NOT the job of the BBC, which we fund and expect to be impartial!

Its a disgrace if Ms Creighton's reaction is not clearly reported in the BBC and msm and if Raymond Buchanan does not offer a full explanation. I urge everyone reading this website to contact Mr Buchanan and the BBC to complain about this propaganda and demand an explanation. We should not have to go to this trouble to ensure our public broadcaster operates impartially.
 
 
# From The Suburbs 2013-01-26 23:27
No point just complaining to Newsnet Scotland, everyone one of us must complain about specific examples of bbc bias to every newspaper in the land and to all radio phone ins.

Cheer volume of complaints will force them to draw attention to such bias.
 
 
# gfaetheblock 2013-01-26 23:54
The Tories are far from a shoe in for the election. If you believe that then log on to the bookies, as they have labour as a clear favourite and the is easy money to be made.

The EU referendum is a desperate move by Cameron, it will shore up the right wing of his party and alienate floating voters in the middle. It might reduce the impact of Ukip, but it does that make them favourites for the election, never mind anything else.
 
 
# src19 2013-01-27 02:41
The latest Sunday Mirror/ComRes survey the tories are gaining ground (not posting the link to that rag). I think the bookies will be changing their odds this week.
 
 
# rapid 2013-01-27 00:20
a state broadcaster mis-representing a foreign government official from a friendly neighbour is more than embarrassing, it's a diplomatic incident.

Unlike 1979, today the power of the internet flushes out these lies, the big question is whether the power of the internet will reach many of the no's and dinnae knows to tell them that their state broadcaster is lying to them?
 
 
# Hamish100 2013-01-28 12:20
All of the recent BBC Scotland reports -NHS, EU etc must be seen in the light that some of the journalists are looking over their shoulders as to who is going to be sacked ---and may well be trying to be noticed to their masters in London.The thought of unemployment can do strange things to folk. Gary Armstrong on the radio this morning needs to attend an anger management course --the pressures are getting to GMS as well.
 
 
# The_Healthy_Skeptic 2013-01-29 18:04
Quote:
The Tories are now a shoe in for the 2015 UK general election and UKIP have been neutered. Now ask yourself just how damaging is this EU referendum is to the pro-Union Better Together campaign? Right again, it’s extremely damaging


Really!? You think!??

Well I don't believe so. We could have a perfectly functioning UK out of the EU, restructured to be a Constitutional Republic comprising all the UK member states. This is de facto independence for all the counties in the Union, without breaking up the Union.
 
 
# kenneth_clark336 2013-01-29 20:15
Healthy Skeptic uses the phrase, "a perfectly functioning UK" An oxymoron surely? Certainly while Westminster is in charge.
 
 
# Ard Righ 2013-01-30 01:13
Though the article portrays a political master stroke by the Unionist Tory leader, the fact remains that when we win independence and secede from the parliamentary union with England, THERE IS NO U.K. The decision will then be made as to the efficacy of partnership with the E.U, which, in the light of the last five years would be extremely unwise. More complex names for debt does not solve debt, neither does it solve the problem of outdated and corrupt private banking cartels and therefore fiscal autonomy for institutions of countries.

The "greater english" state broadcaster is rife with anglo-unionist propaganda. Many people have pointed out in the comments above, that greater awareness of this manipulation of democracy must be shouted from all corners and outlets. Tell every one about NNS!
 

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