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By Alex Orr 
 
The dust has now settled on Prime Minister Cameron’s notorious “Bloomberg address”, pledging an “In-Out” Referendum in 2017 on the UK’s European Union membership should the Tories win the next General Election.
 
The Prime Minister, under UKIP and Tory backbench pressure, said he wants to renegotiate the UK's relationship with the EU and then give people the "simple choice" between staying in under those new terms or leaving the EU.

Given the results of the Eastleigh by-election, where UKIP finished second pushing the Tories into an embarrassing third place, it is a strategy that has clearly not worked.  And the prospects are that Labour will be pushed into a similar pledge.

This is however a game changer when it comes to the small matter of Scottish independence.  What the EU referendum debate does is highlight the irony of those opposing independence on the grounds that Scotland would have to re-apply for EU membership, when the UK is in fact potentially heading towards the exits.

The argument that the impact of a referendum to be held on Scottish independence next year will be destabilising to the economy, but one in 5 years time somehow won’t, is equally absurd.  For those who want Scotland to remain within the EU, this can only be guaranteed through Scottish independence.

The prospect of an EU referendum does however create an interesting debate for those of us north of the border.  Those born after 1957 have never had the chance to vote on the UK’s relationship with the EU (the EEC as was in the 1975 referendum), but those in the rest of the UK are potentially set to have such a vote in 2017.  This will not include Scotland which, should it vote yes in 2014, will have achieved its independence in 2016.

I, like many, am wholly in favour of an independent Scotland’s continued membership of the EU and the benefits it has brought.  It also provides a forum in which smaller nations can have a genuine influence.  Ireland, for example, now holds the EU Presidency, having taken this role over from Cyprus.  What is of some concern however is that those in what remains of the UK will have a debate on their future constitutional relationship with the EU, but we in Scotland will not.

There is a clear need for a national debate, potentially a referendum should there be the demand, on an independent Scotland’s relationship with the EU.  This is especially relevant given the likelihood that what remains of the rest of the UK will have a different relationship with the EU post the proposed 2017 referendum.

According to recent polling around 60% of Scots would like there to be a referendum and I am in no doubt that Scotland would decide to stay within the EU, which the polls also indicate would be the case.  But such a debate will serve to take the heat out of the debate, heal many old scores and settle this issue for at least a generation.


Alex Orr is a SNP European Parliamentary candidate and board member of the European Movement.

Comments  

 
# UpSpake 2013-03-19 08:30
Mr. Orr. Simply state how and where being a member of this quasi superstate in any way benifits Scotland.
Try understanding just how devastating membership for Scotland has been to our fishing industry for starters.
Watch with horror the way the ECB is targetting PIGS and see that for them, democracy is a willing victim in this headlong rush to create the EUSSR.
There is little or nothing about EU membership that appeals to me.
You were indoctrinated early as so many of your collegues in the European Movement were.
What a perfect strucutre to keep Scotland firmly under their undemocratic grip.
Nope, for me Independence means just that. Total and complete independence from all Unions.
 
 
# frankly francophone 2013-03-19 12:08
A rather intriguing report which appears to have been received recently by the US Justice Department on the subject of 'separatism' in the EU may be of interest:

.../independence-in-europe.html
 
 
# Breeks 2013-03-19 13:25
Go on to read Mr Connolly's report and while it's fair to a point, it misses certain important fundamental subtleties.

"The Treaty dissolved the Scottish parliament and transferred ultimate political authority to London"....

Err, not quite.

And Nationalism dormant until the discovery of oil in the 1970's? Come on, I think we deserve a little more credit than that. There is more to life than oil.

I realise it's just an American snap shot for briefing purposes, but it's a pity it's not a very accurate snapshot, because it undermines the greater part of the document.

The concept of both Scotland and England reverting back to the same independent entities they were before entering union is being lost in translation. We didn't join the UK that we might leave it again, the act of union created the UK, and the UK ceases to exist if and when the Kingdoms disunite.
 
 
# Jamie Black 2013-03-19 12:32
Probably not the best time to try sell the virtues of the EU - you are aware of the issue in Cyprus and the reckless and inappropriate conduct of the EU in this respect? They are an exceptionally greedy organisation and have placed economies at risk with this ridiculous proposal.

As UpSpake says - there is no point having Independence unless it is actually Independence!
 
 
# cjmasta 2013-03-19 23:49
If Scotland votes NO in 2014 then the SNP should go into the next election promising to renegotiate Scotland`s relationship with the UK.
Maybe offer a further referendum to give Scots the choice of the level of powers they wish to have in relation to the rest of the UK.
If London says no to Scots wishes then declare UDI as the union no longer represents Scots aspirations.
 
 
# spagan 2013-03-20 12:09
I think Alex is right.
Holding a referendum on the EC is challenging, but not holding a referendum is also challenging.
Perhaps every 10 years a plebiscite could be used to inform the strategic direction of travel that our elected representatives take us?
Not just on the EC - but also on the Constitution, on the Monarchy, on the Wealth Divide, on Public Ownership of Utilities and Land, on NATO, on Nuclear?
Can 2014 bring a better form of Democracy in its wake?
Plebiscite - "Proud to be a Pleb"!!
 
 
# Business for Scotland 2013-03-20 12:58
Its a bit of a what have the Romans ever done for us question above! Maybe we should start by highlighting that the motorway extensions, new bridges, broadband infrastructure, council grants, training support schemes run by councils, Regional Selective Assistance grants, innovation grants and even the grants for businesses like mine to hire graduate interns are all EU funded.

Westminster doesn't invest properly in Scotland or the regions and the EU helps make up for that is a small way.

Here is a blog I published on the same subject www.businessforscotland.co.uk/.../
 
 
# Breeks 2013-03-20 19:48
I've tried for innovation funding and was very shabbily treated by a very arrogant and conceited Scottish Enterprise.

Can we keep Europe and ditch the quangos?
 
 
# James 2013-03-24 23:56
Are you not aware that what Scotland gets from the EU in the form of grants is a mere fraction of what we pay in? The latest figures show that Scotland contributed more than £1,300 million to the EU budget in 2011. The Scottish Government could distribute those grants - our own money, not the EU's - directly without processing them through Brussels and thereby losing most of the capital in the process. I would have thought that any competent businessman could have grasped that that is no way to run an administration. In the private sector such crass inefficiency would lead directly to the bankruptcy court.
 
 
# xyz 2013-03-20 13:32
Unionists and brainwashed Brits think that the EU is a greater evil than the UK. I'd like to see a comparison of both unions relationship with Scotland. For example: We gave the EU 1 Billion last year but that came out of the 56 Billion taken from us by the UK.

Furthermore, what is happening in Cyprus is deplorable but that is nothing to what is happening to savers in the UK: Cyprus banks euro tax bail-out is a small-scale smash-and-grab compared to Britain’s slow-motion bank robbery blogs.telegraph.co.uk/.../...
 
 
# UpSpake 2013-03-20 16:42
Business in Scotland. Which part of being a 'net contributer to the EU' is it you don't get.
Scotland pays more into the EU than we ever get back in grants or whatever.
This is just as stupid an arrangement as being a net contirbuter to the UK.
Let's get rid of these perdidious Unions, all they do is bleed us dry. Don't dress up a grant as a bonus to Scotland when it is very far from being so.
Let's keep all our money and decide for ourselves what it is we want to sepnd it on. Common sense, not rocket science.
 
 
# Am Fògarrach 2013-03-21 19:40
Did anyone else notice the "EU stars" superimposed on the Saltire at the top of this article, just as the St. George's cross is superimposed on the Saltire in the Union flag?

The SNP, whose policy is for independent Scotland to be a member of the EU, seem to be unaware that the "EU stars' superimposed on the Saltire perfectly symbolise the SNP's desire for EU membership.

But independent Scotland in the EU is an oxymoron. Scotland would merely be exchanging the suzerainty of Westminster for the suzerainty of Brussels.

Do thoughtful Scots really want this?
 

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