Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:53
49 Comments
By a Newsnet reporter 
Secretary of State for Scotland Michael Moore has dismissed as "cheek" a request from SNP MP Stuart Hosie that the UK government specify what additional powers would be offered to the Scottish Parliament in the event of a no vote in the independence referendum.
Appearing before a Select Committee in the House of Commons, Mr Moore was asked by Mr Hosie to explain what Prime Minister David Cameron meant by the "enhanced devolution" he claimed he was open to "considering" when he was in Edinburgh last week.
Mr Moore initially refused to answer the question, claiming it was "incredible" that Mr Hosie was requesting details of additonal powers. However pressed further by Mr Hosie, the Lib Dem MP snapped back complaining Mr Hosie had "a bit of cheek" in asking.
Mr Hosie had asked the Secretary of State whether Mr Cameron's "announcement was simply to capture one day's news headlines or was it to cover the embarrassment of a government which voted against the devolution of any further powers in the Commons debate or the Scotland Bill last year".
An obviously rattled Mr Moore replied:
"The honourable gentleman has a bit of cheek talking about a lack of detail when they [the SNP] cannot spell out what the currency situation would be in an independent Scotland, to what the national debt might look like, how we deal with pensions, financial regulation."
However, Mr Moore's claims were called into question after it emerged that questions of pensions are determined by international agreements to which the UK government is a signatory. The issue of pensions was dealt with in a White Paper produced by the Scottish govnernment in 2009.
The UK government collects all UK revenues and alone has borrowing powers, critics have pointed out that the only body able to produce accurate and detailed financial information about the amount of debt Scotland would inherit from the UK.
First Minister Alex Salmond has already stated publicly that Scotland would adopt Sterling immediately following independence and would inherit a share of UK national debt as well as UK assets. Experts have also confirmed that Scotland would be treated as a successor state to the UK, and would therefore also inherit existing UK commitments such as EU membership.
Mr Moore went on to say that the question of extra powers for Holyrood could only be considered after the referendum, and again refused to consider providing any details of what kind of Union Scots would be voting to remain a part of should they reject independence in the referendum.
Mr Moore said: "It is absolutely clear, we must make the most fundamental decision on Scotland's future in a clear-cut and decisive way. The debate about devolution will be ongoing and I very much look forward to being part of that."
Comments
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2012-02-23 01:31
Unless Cameron and Co spell out what further powers are on offer, how can the voters make an informed decision on how to vote on the referendum? There are no further powers on offer, just plenty of flannel.
As to what currency Scotland will use once we've restored our independence, that's absolutely none of their business. When we're independent Westminster will then be considered by us to be a foreign government and our currency will strictly be our affair.
As to their national debt: Since we will be considered by the UN to be a new nation, we will start off with a clean slate. Westminster borrowed and spent the money, mainly on weapons, wars and the SE of England. It's their debt to repay, not ours.
As to what currency Scotland will use once we've restored our independence, that's absolutely none of their business. When we're independent Westminster will then be considered by us to be a foreign government and our currency will strictly be our affair.
As to their national debt: Since we will be considered by the UN to be a new nation, we will start off with a clean slate. Westminster borrowed and spent the money, mainly on weapons, wars and the SE of England. It's their debt to repay, not ours.
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2012-02-23 03:27
As to the national debt, isn't there something missing in the article's paragraph:
"The UK government collects all UK revenues and alone has borrowing powers, critics have pointed out that the only body able to produce accurate and detailed financial information about the amount of debt Scotland would inherit from the UK"
As in "The body is....
Or is just my standard paranoia?
"The UK government collects all UK revenues and alone has borrowing powers, critics have pointed out that the only body able to produce accurate and detailed financial information about the amount of debt Scotland would inherit from the UK"
As in "The body is....
Or is just my standard paranoia?
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2012-02-23 01:35
Yes, how dare anyone question our London masters. Especially when they don't have an answer.
"The honourable gentleman has a bit of cheek talking about a lack of detail when they [the SNP] cannot spell out what the currency situation would be in an independent Scotland, to what the national debt might look like, how we deal with pensions, financial regulation."
Why then do I and most people I know have more of a clue about the Scottish Government's intentions for currency and debt etc in an independent Scotland than the UK Govt's plans for Scotland remaining in the UK.
Has the myth that the Scottish Government hasn't discussed its intentions for an independent Scotland been added to the A-Z of unionist myths yet?
"The honourable gentleman has a bit of cheek talking about a lack of detail when they [the SNP] cannot spell out what the currency situation would be in an independent Scotland, to what the national debt might look like, how we deal with pensions, financial regulation."
Why then do I and most people I know have more of a clue about the Scottish Government's intentions for currency and debt etc in an independent Scotland than the UK Govt's plans for Scotland remaining in the UK.
Has the myth that the Scottish Government hasn't discussed its intentions for an independent Scotland been added to the A-Z of unionist myths yet?
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2012-02-23 01:42
Quote:
And this sort of response is expected to make us all jump up and say YES to more jam tomorrow?
There used to be a saying at school, long time ago.
"Engage brain before you open your mouth!"
Perhaps if the unionist NO campaign leaders could follow this simple advice we might actually start to get somewhere!
Mr Moore went on to say that the question of extra powers for Holyrood could only be considered after the referendum, and again refused to consider providing any details of what kind of Union Scots would be voting to remain a part of should they reject independence in the referendum.
And this sort of response is expected to make us all jump up and say YES to more jam tomorrow?
There used to be a saying at school, long time ago.
"Engage brain before you open your mouth!"
Perhaps if the unionist NO campaign leaders could follow this simple advice we might actually start to get somewhere!
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2012-02-23 02:02
Michael Moore feels safe in the house of commons supported by unionist yes men/women but is so out of touch with us the people of Scotland. How many times do we have to hear him say 'the SNP must outline their plans which they have failed to do' before this line simply runs out.
By the way I have contacted 20 mates through Facebook who were undecided and have lead them across to definite supporters of independence after asking them to click on the NNS site and reading the A TO Z of myths. This is a powerful tool to woo the undecided over.
By the way I have contacted 20 mates through Facebook who were undecided and have lead them across to definite supporters of independence after asking them to click on the NNS site and reading the A TO Z of myths. This is a powerful tool to woo the undecided over.
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2012-02-23 02:34
The unionists are currently in the 'denial' stage of negotiations in that they can't believe they even have to negotiate. There have been signs that some unionists may have made the transistion to the 'anger' stage (but this is mostly limited to the comments section on the Daily Mail website). There is also some evidence that PM Dave may be in the 'depression' stage with statements that this is all 'very sad'. I just wish they would all hurry up and accept it.
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2012-02-23 03:31
My guess is:
"Either you lot start behaving or we'll forbid the production of shortbread"?
That period!
"Either you lot start behaving or we'll forbid the production of shortbread"?
That period!
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2012-02-23 03:54
It is a well known ploy from Propaganda 1.0.1.
If you feel you are about to be open to an accusation, accuse your opponents of the same thing first.
Of course the idea of independence has been debated for years, the SNP Government have made their position very clear on the monarchy, the EU, the initial currency, the size of the armed forces etc. etc. whereas the Us have said absolutely nothing about what extra powers they vaguely promise after a NO vote.
Going by the past example of Alec Douglas-Home telling Scots not to vote Yes for the referendum in '79 because They[the Tories] would give Scots better devolution - a vote no will ensure Devolution is dismantled and Scotland will be ground into the dirt again.
If you feel you are about to be open to an accusation, accuse your opponents of the same thing first.
Of course the idea of independence has been debated for years, the SNP Government have made their position very clear on the monarchy, the EU, the initial currency, the size of the armed forces etc. etc. whereas the Us have said absolutely nothing about what extra powers they vaguely promise after a NO vote.
Going by the past example of Alec Douglas-Home telling Scots not to vote Yes for the referendum in '79 because They[the Tories] would give Scots better devolution - a vote no will ensure Devolution is dismantled and Scotland will be ground into the dirt again.
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2012-02-23 06:59
We are being offered jam tomorrow and have been offered jam yesterday - but never jam today.
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2012-02-23 07:28
They want details on the SNP's intentionsfor an idependant Scotland. Details on which currency, details on defence, details on servicing the debt, details on EU membership, details on border control, details ,details, details.
Yet they cant give any details on which powers could possiblly be devolved should we vote no! Does anyone else smell a rat?
Yet they cant give any details on which powers could possiblly be devolved should we vote no! Does anyone else smell a rat?
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2012-02-23 08:00
Now folks correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain that the Scottish Government HAVE answered all of Mr Moore's questions.
Currency - Sterling
Defence - SDF Brigade strength army + 3 main bases + satellite installations
Pensions and Welfare - Paid for by fully repatriated powers on access to resource, taxation, spend and settlement negotiation
Debt - proportional to population and paid for by (see pensions)
Fiscal policiy - roughly on parity with the next door neighbour but the fine detail is nane o' his business
Foreign policy - see Fiscal Policy
So in light of the fact that the SG have answered all his questions I'd have thought it only fair that he answer some of theirs. But who knew - he didn't have any answers to hand.
Oh wait now......
Currency - Sterling
Defence - SDF Brigade strength army + 3 main bases + satellite installations
Pensions and Welfare - Paid for by fully repatriated powers on access to resource, taxation, spend and settlement negotiation
Debt - proportional to population and paid for by (see pensions)
Fiscal policiy - roughly on parity with the next door neighbour but the fine detail is nane o' his business
Foreign policy - see Fiscal Policy
So in light of the fact that the SG have answered all his questions I'd have thought it only fair that he answer some of theirs. But who knew - he didn't have any answers to hand.
Oh wait now......
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2012-02-23 08:00
Surely 'cheek' is defined in politics as implementing the polar and moral opposite of your manifesto and then expecting people to take what you say seriously.
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2012-02-23 08:14
Isn't a 'cheek' the tatget of a Labour MP's forehead, whilst discussing Devo-Max with his Tory mate?
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2012-02-23 09:46
I read this from your old friend, Brian Taylor on the BBC Scotland blog, referring to what would happen if Scotland votes 'NO' in the referendum:
bbc.co.uk/.../...
"I believe that a "No but…." stance is now plainly emerging from the SNP's three main rivals. The Lib Dems are already there with their commission under Sir Menzies Campbell. Labour are getting there with thoughtful speeches from Douglas Alexander and others, together with analysis from the party's Scottish leader, Johann Lamont.
The import of the PM's contribution is that a "No but…." approach is now under serious scrutiny in Downing Street."
The hiatus seems particularly appropriate. As all of you are saying, and as the SNP are saying, "NO but WHAT?" I don't think it's too much (nor a 'cheek') in a democracy for electors to know what's on offer to them, should they vote No in an independence referendum.
It's time London stopped treated the outlying areas with patronising contempt and for BBC reporters to get out more and ask the questions that matter - and clarify for all of us what is to fill that hiatus.
bbc.co.uk/.../...
"I believe that a "No but…." stance is now plainly emerging from the SNP's three main rivals. The Lib Dems are already there with their commission under Sir Menzies Campbell. Labour are getting there with thoughtful speeches from Douglas Alexander and others, together with analysis from the party's Scottish leader, Johann Lamont.
The import of the PM's contribution is that a "No but…." approach is now under serious scrutiny in Downing Street."
The hiatus seems particularly appropriate. As all of you are saying, and as the SNP are saying, "NO but WHAT?" I don't think it's too much (nor a 'cheek') in a democracy for electors to know what's on offer to them, should they vote No in an independence referendum.
It's time London stopped treated the outlying areas with patronising contempt and for BBC reporters to get out more and ask the questions that matter - and clarify for all of us what is to fill that hiatus.
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2012-02-23 10:25
Dear Scotland,
I am replying to your request for further information with regard to what you will receive should you vote NO in the forthcoming and imminent referendum on separation of your region from our beloved United Kingdom. My partner, Mr 'Del Boy' Moore and I would be deeply saddened if you were to leave us (in it) at this juncture, so I am persuaded that it would be inmy our interests to consider offering you something should you vote NO to independence.
It has been widely trailed that I am considering offering you 'jam tomorrow.' This, and I think you will agree, is wildly unfair - jam is the sole preserve of the Women's Institute, and to deprive them of their monopoly by issuing it tosome ungrateful whining Jocks yourselves would be most unfair. I mean where would this country be without its 'jam and Jerusalem'? Ho ho - I've just made a funny: jam being the sole preserve (Note to speechwriters, keep 'em coming boys, the Scots will be holding their sides at my Etonian wit.)
But, what do I have on offer to you today then, if not jam? Well, if you feel you cannot afford the sleekest, most modern independent range of vehicle from my showroom, I am considering obtaining for you a souped up model of what you had before. I may even be persuaded to repaint it blue and white for you, as opposed to the red, white and blue version you currently own. However, this vehicle is not yet in stock and I cannot guarantee getting it for you if you reject the brand new independence model.
But if you do say NO to that one, and if I decide to get the souped up second hand, well-used model that I may have repainted, then you shouldn't examine it too closely. Indeed, why should you? You have been a first rate and valuedmug customer of ours for many years and I know you can trust us. The engine on this vehicle might be a little iffy, but hey, we don't want you going around in a flash little number showing all your new friends your new car. Nor do we want you to go too far down the independence road either.
I hope this clarifies both my partner's and my stance with regard to what we are considering offering you should you not wish to purchase our top of the range model.
If either of us can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate in asking. We won't help in any way but you can ask as much as you like until you're blue (and white) in the face. Ho ho, another funny. Jolly good show, speechwriters, keep 'em coming.
Yours disrespectfully ,
Dave 'Boycie' Cameron
Michael 'Del Boy' Moore
I am replying to your request for further information with regard to what you will receive should you vote NO in the forthcoming and imminent referendum on separation of your region from our beloved United Kingdom. My partner, Mr 'Del Boy' Moore and I would be deeply saddened if you were to leave us (in it) at this juncture, so I am persuaded that it would be in
It has been widely trailed that I am considering offering you 'jam tomorrow.' This, and I think you will agree, is wildly unfair - jam is the sole preserve of the Women's Institute, and to deprive them of their monopoly by issuing it to
But, what do I have on offer to you today then, if not jam? Well, if you feel you cannot afford the sleekest, most modern independent range of vehicle from my showroom, I am considering obtaining for you a souped up model of what you had before. I may even be persuaded to repaint it blue and white for you, as opposed to the red, white and blue version you currently own. However, this vehicle is not yet in stock and I cannot guarantee getting it for you if you reject the brand new independence model.
But if you do say NO to that one, and if I decide to get the souped up second hand, well-used model that I may have repainted, then you shouldn't examine it too closely. Indeed, why should you? You have been a first rate and valued
I hope this clarifies both my partner's and my stance with regard to what we are considering offering you should you not wish to purchase our top of the range model.
If either of us can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate in asking. We won't help in any way but you can ask as much as you like until you're blue (and white) in the face. Ho ho, another funny. Jolly good show, speechwriters, keep 'em coming.
Yours disrespectfully ,
Dave 'Boycie' Cameron
Michael 'Del Boy' Moore
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2012-02-23 11:19
I get the impression that Mt Moore has been promted to a job that is beyond his ability.He has consistently appeared to be out of his depth.
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2012-02-23 11:26
Cameron and Moore have turned into the comedy pair of slappers - Vicky and her pal: yes, no,yes, no, yes, no .... wiv chips ... Cameron is the Walliams character and Moore the Matt Lucas one..
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2012-02-23 11:59
So no one knows what currency we will have after Independence, is that that your pathetic wee claim Moore?
WELL!
I think you are in the minority Bubba!
Can I suggest, in the nicest possible way of course, that you bimble over to Schipol airport cafe.
www.facebook.com/.../
No one knows what our currency will be after Independence indeed!
WELL!
I think you are in the minority Bubba!
Can I suggest, in the nicest possible way of course, that you bimble over to Schipol airport cafe.
www.facebook.com/.../
No one knows what our currency will be after Independence indeed!
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2012-02-23 12:41
It would appear that the Spring conference season starts next month. Labour and the Lib/Dems are the first out of the blocks.
Quote:
bbc.co.uk/.../...
Now I just know there as some out there in "ether land" who are just gasping at the bit to get your questions in.
Quote:
The BBC will be holding its webcast chats with the leaders of both Scottish parties and is now appealing for questions from the public.
bbc.co.uk/.../...
Now I just know there as some out there in "ether land" who are just gasping at the bit to get your questions in.
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2012-02-23 13:46
Found this wee photie on facebook.
Now, if there was any doubt about why Wastemonster is desperate to hing onto us then I think the photie says it all. :D
www.facebook.com/.../
Now, if there was any doubt about why Wastemonster is desperate to hing onto us then I think the photie says it all. :D
www.facebook.com/.../
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2012-02-23 14:02
I liked that picture.
You could say it encapsulated the entire McCrone report in an instant.
Which brings me to my main point. Mr.Salmond almost mentioned the McCrone report at FMQ's today. He alluded to it but he never named it.
When will someone, either from the media or from the political sphere, open this up to general scrutiny.
I have personaly in the last week raised this subject with 20 people 12 of them had never even heard of it 4 of them had heard something about it but didn't really know what it was about and only 4 could offer an opinion on it.
Speaking as someone who believes that if everyone knew about this report and the fact that it had been kept from public consumption by both labour and tory governments for as long as it was then it would help them to realise that these people could not and can not be trusted with the wellbeing of Scotland.
You could say it encapsulated the entire McCrone report in an instant.
Which brings me to my main point. Mr.Salmond almost mentioned the McCrone report at FMQ's today. He alluded to it but he never named it.
When will someone, either from the media or from the political sphere, open this up to general scrutiny.
I have personaly in the last week raised this subject with 20 people 12 of them had never even heard of it 4 of them had heard something about it but didn't really know what it was about and only 4 could offer an opinion on it.
Speaking as someone who believes that if everyone knew about this report and the fact that it had been kept from public consumption by both labour and tory governments for as long as it was then it would help them to realise that these people could not and can not be trusted with the wellbeing of Scotland.
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2012-02-23 14:13
I thought he was going to mention the McCrone report as well jafurn. I hope he is saving it for a time nearer to the referendum, by which time the unionists will be so black and blue with all the battering they will have taken the report itself will turn out to be the knock out punch!
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2012-02-23 14:25
I know what you mean but why save it? That report is damning to the entire unionist myth about too wee too poor etc... I say get it out there and let people digest what it means and I don't mean only that Scotland would have been richer with Independence. The more pertinent thing for me is the fact that it was classified as 'secret' and kept from the public for so long, by both shades of red or blue government whichever you pick, is the final proof (if any more is needed) that these people can not be trusted with our wellbeing as a country and the sooner that is realised the better.
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2012-02-23 14:30
My thinking, ah that's why my brain hurts, was that the closer we get to the "famous day" the less time the unionists will have to try, and fail miserably, to defend their actions.
By doing this later rather than sooner then those voters who are still wavering will be hit with this powder keg of information and, in my limited view, this will be the final nudge these "waverers" will need to fall over into the YES camp!
By doing this later rather than sooner then those voters who are still wavering will be hit with this powder keg of information and, in my limited view, this will be the final nudge these "waverers" will need to fall over into the YES camp!
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2012-02-23 14:41
I can see your point and I can see the advantage of that as a strategy however I still think that the longer this had to sink in the better.
I have just been watching yesterdays Scottish Affairs Committee meeting on
The Referendum on Separation for Scotland
parliamentlive.tv/.../...
I seriously have to go and get myself some fresh air.
words fail to describe how I feel about Mr Moore certainly no words I would be allowed on this site..(maybe I should go over to the snaily dale or somesuch)
Mr Moore makes my blood boil everytime he opens his mouth and I cannot believe that the wellbeing of Scotland is in this mans hands.
He is an odious man. I will leave it at that.
I have just been watching yesterdays Scottish Affairs Committee meeting on
The Referendum on Separation for Scotland
parliamentlive.tv/.../...
I seriously have to go and get myself some fresh air.
words fail to describe how I feel about Mr Moore certainly no words I would be allowed on this site..(maybe I should go over to the snaily dale or somesuch)
Mr Moore makes my blood boil everytime he opens his mouth and I cannot believe that the wellbeing of Scotland is in this mans hands.
He is an odious man. I will leave it at that.
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2012-02-23 14:46
I know I am replying to myself but thankfully I just remembered Scotland's wellbeing is not in this mans hands . We have Mr. Salmond.
just before anyone else pointed that out to me.
just before anyone else pointed that out to me.
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2012-02-24 13:30
I wouldn't be surprised is Salmond concedes the second question and the date for legal rights. Imagine a scenario where the referendum comes 12 months early. Will the unionists be ready? Imagine the SNP campaigning along the lins of "The unionists took away your right to vote for devo max. The only way to get more power for Scotland is independence." Will the unionists be ready
?
Be careful what you wish for Mr More. You might just get it.
?
Be careful what you wish for Mr More. You might just get it.
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2012-02-23 14:39
I've just found this link up on facebook as well. It is in the Independent and is about the McCrone report.
independent.co.uk/.../...
independent.co.uk/.../...
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2012-02-23 14:53
Is that in the paper today?...Why?
Friday 09 December 2005 was when it was first reported on in the Independent
That was when I became aware of it and from that day to this I have been a supporter of Independence.
Friday 09 December 2005 was when it was first reported on in the Independent
That was when I became aware of it and from that day to this I have been a supporter of Independence.
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2012-02-23 15:10
I found the link via facebook jafurn. I haven't actually checked the Independent site itself yet. It may very well be from 2005 as you say. My apologies if it is a link to the old story.
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2012-02-24 13:44
It's from December 2005. It mentions in the article that Gordon Brown is Chancellor.
I still think it's worth sharing though, becauseit's still relevant. More now than ever. There's also a McCrone Report page on Wikipedia if anyone knows how to update it. It's not very good and very short.
en.wikipedia.org/.../...
I still think it's worth sharing though, becauseit's still relevant. More now than ever. There's also a McCrone Report page on Wikipedia if anyone knows how to update it. It's not very good and very short.
en.wikipedia.org/.../...
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2012-02-23 14:19
So, 'Mental Mickie' Moore is trying to tell the legally elected majority Government of Scotland how to timetable its affairs.
The scene - Bute House
MM Hello, Alex, I hear you're being a naughty boy. I've come round here tonight with my associate, Mugger Mundell. He's not that bright, and he can be clumsy, if you know what I mean? Oi, Mugger, what's that you've picked up? Scotland's Right to Self Determination? Careful you don't drop it and break it. Now then Alex, do you want Mugger dropping your fragile rights and breaking them? I could tell him to put them down carefully and then we could have a little chat? Oops, Mugger nearly dropped it then. Hurry up, Eck, you can see how clumsy he is.......'
The scene - Bute House
MM Hello, Alex, I hear you're being a naughty boy. I've come round here tonight with my associate, Mugger Mundell. He's not that bright, and he can be clumsy, if you know what I mean? Oi, Mugger, what's that you've picked up? Scotland's Right to Self Determination? Careful you don't drop it and break it. Now then Alex, do you want Mugger dropping your fragile rights and breaking them? I could tell him to put them down carefully and then we could have a little chat? Oops, Mugger nearly dropped it then. Hurry up, Eck, you can see how clumsy he is.......'
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2012-02-23 14:25
Lucas, are you it is "Mental Mickie"?
Shouldn't it be "Metal Mickey"?
It would explain why nothing is getting through to him!
Shouldn't it be "Metal Mickey"?
It would explain why nothing is getting through to him!
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2012-02-23 14:55
Quite a fitting poster I think.
www.facebook.com/.../
Oh, and just in case Wastemonster starts to get shirty on Independence how about sending them this.
www.facebook.com/.../
Who says we are a poor country?
Certainly not us, and here is the proof!
www.facebook.com/.../
Oh ad here's apiece by Craig Murray,a former Ambassador and Human Rights Activist about our "missing" 6,000 square miles of North Sea.
craigmurray.org.uk/.../...
www.facebook.com/.../
Oh, and just in case Wastemonster starts to get shirty on Independence how about sending them this.
www.facebook.com/.../
Who says we are a poor country?
Certainly not us, and here is the proof!
www.facebook.com/.../
Oh ad here's apiece by Craig Murray,a former Ambassador and Human Rights Activist about our "missing" 6,000 square miles of North Sea.
craigmurray.org.uk/.../...
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2012-02-23 16:00
Kenny Gibson did well this morning on GMS, mentioning the McCrone Report with a degree of emphasis. This is something which BBC Scotland is afraid to highlight, as they would rather keep the people ignorant. Of course, BBC Alba ran a programme on it ages ago, but they are not stuffed with Unionist apologists.
Keep encouraging the Party to speak out about the facts of the history of the oil takeover by Westminster.
If you missed the Alba programme, it's here: www.youtube.com/.../
Keep encouraging the Party to speak out about the facts of the history of the oil takeover by Westminster.
If you missed the Alba programme, it's here: www.youtube.com/.../
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2012-02-23 19:11
One major point is chrystal clear - the 'status quo' is gone forever.
Should the vote count result in a 'No' vote, the economic thumbscrews will be tightened to the maximum.
Our options are simply: A 'Yes' vote will see Scotland rise in wealth, esteem (including Self-esteem) and prominence in the trading world. As well as a rise in National well-being, personal-well being is likely to soar.
A 'No' vote will almost certainly see Scotland reduced to dependency on hand-outs.
As long as Scots retain control of their own affairs, economic prosperity is theirs.
Should the vote count result in a 'No' vote, the economic thumbscrews will be tightened to the maximum.
Our options are simply: A 'Yes' vote will see Scotland rise in wealth, esteem (including Self-esteem) and prominence in the trading world. As well as a rise in National well-being, personal-well being is likely to soar.
A 'No' vote will almost certainly see Scotland reduced to dependency on hand-outs.
As long as Scots retain control of their own affairs, economic prosperity is theirs.
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2012-02-23 20:41
The nauseous collaboration of Labour, Liberal and Tory MPs, united in an odious undemocratic pact to insult, stifle and drown out legitimate debate can be seen in Wednesday's, so-called "Scottish Questions". Most of the questions are not from Scots, and when Stewart Hosie does get up to speak, his voice is drowned by the united derision of LabLibTories.
The excellent WingsofScotland is a must read today. Pass it on to others.
wingsland.podgamer.com/.../
The excellent WingsofScotland is a must read today. Pass it on to others.
wingsland.podgamer.com/.../
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2012-02-24 13:52
Plus the fact the Scottish Secretary did not answer a single question with an answer relevant to it but tried to score points against questioners outside of his coalition And there will not be another Scottish questions for two months AND one Tory MPs question was "Does the Scottish Sectetary think Alec Salmond is a baddie?" (ALLEDGEDLY first asked by his 11 yer old son at breakfast!)
I ask you, what is the point of Westminster? I hopeas many people as possible see this kind of behaviour as it can only lead to more yes votes!
I ask you, what is the point of Westminster? I hopeas many people as possible see this kind of behaviour as it can only lead to more yes votes!
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This whole carnival of arcane blackwash ... - A statement by Justice for Meg...
O /T Aplication for audience participati... - Lockerbie: Abdelbaset Al-Megra...
O /T Aplication for audience participati... - A statement by Justice for Meg...
"Now he should take the next step and in... - How to make and understand the...
It's a pity that Gerry appears to be fal... - Labour group in Aberdeen Counc...
O/T but relevant to Labour shennanigans,... - Yes campaign set to launch as ...
I had a man girning to me about the sepe... - How to make and understand the...
Just been on the Ipsos MORI site and the... - A statement by Justice for Meg...
The Truth is going to be very very diffi... - Lockerbie: Abdelbaset Al-Megra...
Scottish Daily Express on line quote by ... - Lockerbie: Abdelbaset Al-Megra...
Anyone doubting the fairness of Megrahi'... - How to make and understand the...
We know that the economic argument is im... - Lockerbie: Abdelbaset Al-Megra...
No doubt this had been said already but ... - How to make and understand the...
the unionist campaign has no vision for ... - Lockerbie: Abdelbaset Al-Megra...
Reading a bitter comment - not the only ... - How to make and understand the...
Slightly O/T but if only we could have a...